Denver to Como

[Chris Walker]

I assume the wood in the tender was scrap being loaded.

ComoDepot
What looks like a Pallet is indeed the coal Grate of the bunker part of the Tender.  Keeps the full load of coal from spilling out on the apron and is removed as the coalpile retreats.

[John Droste]

Denver to Como, that is the point of my being here. I might just explain again my thoughts on this and briefly comment on a few intervening factors.

I suspect, in fact am very confident that the Denver DRG station building was moved to Como in 1881 and rebuilt alongside the Hotel next door. Since starting at that point, I have uncovered a whole lot more that all seems to link to this idea. The other buildings involved, the three cars that seem to have been used in the construction of the depot. And the windows from the Gilman, and on and on...

 What I am looking for here is for someone to show me evidence that I am wrong. So far that has not happened. It should not be that hard to do. I am not the expert. You guys are. You have all the research material at your finger tips. I do not.
 And I am not that clever that I could trick everybody in this matter.
 So, isn't it time after all these years for someone to come forward and say, " John, we just don't have anything to refute the crux of what you are saying. In fact, it looks like what you are saying is adding up to be correct."

 There are a few factors in all this that affect the situation. Chris, and others, for example seems to want to attack my person rather than the issue at hand. The matter of the type of cladding used on the wall between the depot and the hotel is the most recent example. And he was correct at least partly in that, but it is not the real issue at hand.

 Another point is this and I have mentioned it many times before, We can be fooled by what we believe into not seeing the truth. Chris`s idea about the Golden Depot is a fantastic example of this. He believed something else, as you all did, and therefore you could not see the glaringly obvious. It happens to all of us. Me too, I am no different, except maybe that I constantly watch and question what it is that I fall into believing. A classic example of that is finding the bolt hole at the same level and size of the bolt holes from the TOB bracket recently. It takes a lot of thought to work through what is going on sometimes. But there is a reason for everything.

 Another heavily influential matter is the owner of the depot. This is such a bizarre situation, and I mean "Really". Its like some kind of science fiction novel, is the best way that I can describe it. An Alien lands who wants to remain hidden, or so it seems to me. He destroys much of a building and then amazingly, he takes on the identity of the building. "Nom De Plume", I think is the French term, I am not great on French. And nobody notices! Its like it is the actual building speaking. Except not for me. The real building speaks to me, showing me its  secrets. And the Spirit of the Depot too, which may be all just in my mind. Well of coarse it is all just in my mind!

 To change tack for a moment, a few months ago I wrote to Bob Schoppe. I asked him who the person with red hair was that had been involved with the redevelopment of the depot. Because for years I have felt this from the Spirit of the Depot. That he "was very angry at what had happened to the Depot." And the feeling to, "Watch out for the one with red hair." I was genuinely surprised when Bob replied back saying that he did not know of anybody with red hair being involved with the depot.
 It is not easy in any way to describe trying to understand the vibration of a presence.

 But I was laying in bed and the presence wanted me to look at Chris's post regarding Golden. And I seemed to understand then that my spirit guide was itself the one that had red hair.
 So I looked at the thread of conversation on the Golden depot and I finished with the question in my mind, "Why would they have gone to such lengths to develop the freight facilities and left the townsfolk in little more than cattle pen standard facilities?" And looking without preconceived ideas, it took no time to see the reality.
 
 Folk that have been following this topic will be well aware that the owner of the depot, the alias Comodepot never ever assists me in my research. Never answers a question that I may have. Never assists in any manner whatsoever. Why? And he certainly knows the truths of the depot after standing by while it has been renovated.
 I have been thinking about this of late. Just why is the owner of the depot so seemingly threatened by my presence? And not just he.
 When I first joined the DSP Yahoo groups many years ago, I talked about what I knew of the Como depot. I did not know it came from Denver at that point, but I did understand and talk about things that put the depot owner and the DSP&P HS very offside. Talking about the sleeping quarters for instance. Only years later was it revealed to me with photos the before and after of that room. Was I without my knowing, discussing things that were preferred not to be brought to light? When I first joined the DSP&P HS, I got along like a house on fire with Dan the Vice President. However, when I started to talk about the Depot, Dan told me that if I continued to talk about the depot he would have nothing more to do with me. And so it was and so it is.
 It may not seem that way but I am not here to give anybody shit. I want what I am talking about, meaning in regards the DRG depot being moved to Como either acknowledged or proven to be wrong. It does not matter either way. I want to settle the matter. I have pointed out so much in these posts to help quantify that end.

 What I am doing here now, is just pointing out the encumbrances to my objective. I would rather not speak of the encumbrances that I have faced. And to a much larger degree, I do not speak of them. It is not something to take pride in by my own standards that I set for myself.
 It really is an extraordinary impasse. I needed to restate my objective here with this discussion and to point out the things that thwart my efforts. There are people who know the events surrounding the history of the Denver DRG station very well, very well. It should not be so hard to show me that I am wrong if I am wrong. And it should not be so hard to acknowledge me. Even to assist me a little bit if I ask a question. After all, I have pointed out some amazing things if you care to reflect on that. Or does that make me a person to be despised? A bad person?
Time will blow back the sands eventually to show what was. I feel comfortable with that.

 

[Dave Eggleston]

John,

I just read this last post of yours. And I find myself absolutely confused over what your point is. You are wandering all over the place when you can likely just say what you need in a simple paragraph. This is what stalls the conversation.

Can you just list your question(s) succinctly. Pull out the accusations, innuendo and drama.

I'm not being combative, I'm trying to help, as a researcher, get you what you need. But none of us know what that is. Instead of calling for people to disprove you, build some bridges with those who could support you, or could redirect you.

Quite simply, what is it you want with the challenge you've tossed out? And if no one responds, what is your next step?

Dave

[John Droste]

Dave,
Good points you make. My post was born out of frustration.

Subsequently, to answer your question, what is my next step?

The answer is nothing. It has been, is all a waste of time. I have finally moved on, spending my time creating my own fantasy railroad. And loving it.
 And FYI, my partner sent me to some kind of healer that said he removed an entity that was attached to me. Two, in fact. Not that I believe in that kind of stuff. But there is a difference since. I have lost interest. Whichever way you may look at that business, I had to do that to move on.
 Best wishes to everybody with your involvements with the new railroad on the South Park.

But then maybe Dave before I head, if I have said something somewhere that made sense, Good. As a researcher work from that and find the way forward. There is a reason for every tiny thing that I have pointed out. Rambling, as it often was.
 Good luck.