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My contact at the DPL has also said same. The cat# F10140 on Jim's picture doesn't come up when entered, adding same in as an id # gets a totally different picture.
Here are all your passengers, X-2204 http://digital.denverlibrary.org/cdm/fullbrowser/collection/p15330coll22/id/3689/rv/singleitem/rec/1
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This post was updated on Jul 22, 2017; 1:14pm.
The date of the original image and several others related to it, May 29, 1927, was at the time only an occasional event. A three day Holiday Weekend. The 29th was Sunday just ahead of Memorial Day, which was observed on May 30th until 1968.
This is why Otto Perry was there, along with so many others with cameras, celebrating the start of Summer. Many of Perry's excellent photographs along with many others were taken on holidays and weekends. Being Sunday, things would have been quiet on the main line, so all the action was "up Clear Creek", and even the drama of delay caused by an errant rock was captured from multiple angles. The 20's were still roaring in 1927! |
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Want to get down hopefully this week, they have Lechner's diaries and hopefully they will be revealing about the early days around here.
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The date of the original image and several others related to it, May 29, 1927 . . .
Where did you come up with that date, Mike? I can't find any specific date on the eBay listing. Am I overlooking something? Jim
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Jim, there is a question mark after the 1930 and fainter lettering "1927 or 1928"
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I can’t identify the cars, but they certainly look to be early to late 1920s.
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Goodness I hadn't read this whole thread. But, with this and a couple of 'new' books, you all have my creative juices flowing.
By the way the stuffed chicken looks eerily like the puppet from 'Howard the Duck'. Fred
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This post was updated on Sep 18, 2017; 6:12am.
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I've taken a break from looking at first decade cabooses, and have been thumbing through the Klingers' new Clear Creek book.
I ran across an unfamiliar photo of the Georgetown depot, that had a DPL negative number. I don't think anyone has posted this beauty: http://digital.denverlibrary.org/cdm/fullbrowser/collection/p15330coll22/id/2998/rv/singleitem/rec/1 C&S 8 makes the westbound Georgetown station stop. Date looks to be late 19-teens judging from the "Como" stack, original tender with collars and the end reporting marks on the boxcar on the house track to the right (the original reporting marks were on the upper left corner of the ends of the house cars, when newly painted in 1907-1910). Apologies, Chris, if you've already noticed / posted this.
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For whatever reason the clothes made me think earlier?
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This post was updated on Sep 18, 2017; 6:13am.
The boxcars have the lateral roof walks for the USSA requirements; could be as early as 1914-1916.
SP is the antique car expert. Perhaps he can identify the make and model of the cars to the right. And the insulators on the telegraph pole as well.
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The boxcar nearest in the picture (8296) was in the second batch of composite (steel) under frame cars - built approx 1910. As Jim pointed out, this car has been updated per the Safety Appliance Act. There is also now a stirrup step on the corner of the car. As noted, it has the reporting marks in the upper right corner and the retainer valve setting diagram in the upper left. Also note that no brake beam is visible across the wheels on the closest end of the car. This can only be a composite (steel) under frame car. It is interesting to note that the reporting marks on the 3rd boxcar back are in the upper left.
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The cars all appear to be very early 20's or teens. The most visible
one wears a radiator shell that looks aftermarket. The front springs are not Ford. The insulators on the two poles are too fuzzy to PID, but it is onteresting to note the C&S owned telegraph line on the crossarm AND a private telephone lead coming in on sidepins on the shorter pole. Would this be Mountain States Telephone Company, or perhaps a local private interest connecting to the depot for some reason ? I do not know enough history of the Clear Creek area to speculate on who might have had an interest in doing that in the Georgetown area, but is was not that uncommon back in the day for private interests to connect to the depot for business and news.
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Could this have been a bull nose morris-An English car? Paul R.
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If it was it would be the most fascinating part of this photo, how did it get there?
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Ever hear of Floyd Clymer?
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Yes I have Bob, he was the very first to win the Pikes Peak hill climb.
...however I don't see the connection.
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I seem to remember reading in one of his books that he used to sell aftermarket customizing parts for cars during the early days.
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I'm still drooling over the clarity of this print of an often reproduced photograph. Behold!
http://digital.denverlibrary.org/cdm/fullbrowser/collection/p15330coll21/id/9854/rv/singleitem/rec/16
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Don't forget the other 3 trains!!
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Two of which are as clear as Mud, Robert.
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