Yet Another DPL Gem: Unseen Clear Creek.

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Re: Unseen Clear Creek Passenger Service -- Part 3: "Layover for Lunch at the Wye"

Chris Walker
My contact at the DPL has also said same.  The cat# F10140 on Jim's picture doesn't come up when entered, adding same in as an id # gets a totally different picture.


Here are all your passengers,
X-2204

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UpSideDownC
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May 29, 1927

Mike Trent
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This post was updated on .
The date of the original image and several others related to it, May 29, 1927, was at the time only an occasional event. A three day Holiday Weekend. The 29th was Sunday just ahead of Memorial Day, which was observed on May 30th until 1968.

This is why Otto Perry was there, along with so many others with cameras, celebrating the start of Summer. Many of Perry's excellent photographs along with many others were taken on holidays and weekends.

Being Sunday, things would have been quiet on the main line, so all the action was "up Clear Creek", and even the drama of delay caused by an errant rock was captured from multiple angles.

The 20's were still roaring in 1927!
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Re: Unseen Clear Creek Passenger Service -- Part 3: "Layover for Lunch at the Wye"

ComoDepot
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Want to get down hopefully this week, they have Lechner's diaries and hopefully they will be revealing about the early days around here.
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Re: May 29, 1927

Jim Courtney
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The date of the original image and several others related to it, May 29, 1927 . . .

Where did you come up with that date, Mike?  I can't find any specific date on the eBay listing. Am I overlooking something?

Jim
Jim Courtney
Poulsbo, WA
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Re: Unseen Clear Creek Passenger Service -- Part 3: "Layover for Lunch at the Wye"

Chris Walker
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Jim Courtney wrote
Another photo, new to me, for sale on eBay:
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There is an inscription dating the photo to 1930 at the lower left corner.
Jim,
there is a question mark after the 1930 and fainter lettering  "1927 or 1928"

UpSideDownC
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Re: Unseen Clear Creek Passenger Service -- Part 3: "Layover for Lunch at the Wye"

Jeff Young
I can’t identify the cars, but they certainly look to be early to late 1920s.
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Re: Unseen Clear Creek Passenger Service -- Part 3: "Layover for Lunch at the Wye"

Fatbiker52
Goodness I hadn't read this whole thread. But, with this and a couple of 'new' books, you all have my creative juices flowing.

By the way the stuffed chicken looks eerily like the puppet from 'Howard the Duck'.
Fred
Superintendent
C&S Kebler pass Subdivision
The Kebler Pass Route
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Re: Unseen Clear Creek Passenger Service -- Georgetown

Jim Courtney
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I've taken a break from looking at first decade cabooses, and have been thumbing through the Klingers' new Clear Creek book.

I ran across an unfamiliar photo of the Georgetown depot, that had a DPL negative number.  I don't think anyone has posted this beauty:


http://digital.denverlibrary.org/cdm/fullbrowser/collection/p15330coll22/id/2998/rv/singleitem/rec/1




C&S 8 makes the westbound Georgetown station stop. Date looks to be late 19-teens judging from the "Como" stack, original tender with collars and the end reporting marks on the boxcar on the house track to the right (the original reporting marks were on the upper left corner of the ends of the house cars, when newly painted in 1907-1910).

Apologies, Chris, if you've already noticed / posted this.
Jim Courtney
Poulsbo, WA
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Re: Unseen Clear Creek Passenger Service -- Georgetown

ComoDepot
For whatever reason the clothes made me think earlier?
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Re: Unseen Clear Creek Passenger Service -- Georgetown

Jim Courtney
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The boxcars have the lateral roof walks for the USSA requirements; could be as early as 1914-1916.

SP is the antique car expert. Perhaps he can identify the make and model of the cars to the right. And the insulators on the telegraph pole as well.
Jim Courtney
Poulsbo, WA
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Re: Unseen Clear Creek Passenger Service -- Georgetown

Doug Heitkamp
The boxcar nearest in the picture (8296) was in the second batch of composite (steel) under frame cars - built approx 1910. As Jim pointed out, this car has been updated per the Safety Appliance Act. There is also now a stirrup step on the corner of the car. As noted, it has the reporting marks in the upper right corner and the retainer valve setting diagram in the upper left. Also note that no brake beam is visible across the wheels on the closest end of the car. This can only be a composite (steel) under frame car. It is interesting to note that the reporting marks on the 3rd boxcar back are in the upper left.

Doug Heitkamp
Centennial, CO
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Re: Unseen Clear Creek Passenger Service -- Georgetown

South Park
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  The cars all appear to be very early 20's or teens.  The most visible
one wears a radiator shell that looks aftermarket.  The front springs
are not Ford.  The insulators on the two poles are too fuzzy to PID,
but it is onteresting to note the C&S owned telegraph line on the crossarm
AND a private telephone lead coming in on sidepins on the shorter pole.
Would this be Mountain States Telephone Company, or perhaps a local
private interest connecting to the depot for some reason ?  I do not
know enough history of the Clear Creek area to speculate on who might
have had an interest in doing that in the Georgetown area, but is was not
that uncommon back in the day for private interests to connect to the
depot for business and news.
"Duty above all else except Honor"
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Re: Unseen Clear Creek Passenger Service -- Georgetown

Paul R.
Could this have been a bull nose morris-An English car? Paul R.
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Re: Unseen Clear Creek Passenger Service -- Georgetown

ComoDepot
If it was it would be the most fascinating part of this photo, how did it get there?
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Re: Unseen Clear Creek Passenger Service -- Georgetown

Robert McFarland
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Ever hear of Floyd Clymer?
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Re: Unseen Clear Creek Passenger Service -- Georgetown

Chris Walker
Yes I have Bob, he was the very first to win the Pikes Peak hill climb.
...however I don't see the connection.
UpSideDownC
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Re: Unseen Clear Creek Passenger Service -- Georgetown

Robert McFarland
I seem to remember reading in one of his books that he used to sell aftermarket customizing parts for cars during the early days.
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Re: Unseen Clear Creek Passenger Service --High Bridge CCRR

Chris Walker
I'm still drooling over the clarity of this print of an often reproduced photograph.  Behold!

http://digital.denverlibrary.org/cdm/fullbrowser/collection/p15330coll21/id/9854/rv/singleitem/rec/16

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Re: Unseen Clear Creek Passenger Service --High Bridge CCRR

Robert McFarland
Don't forget the other 3 trains!!
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Re: Unseen Clear Creek Passenger Service --High Bridge CCRR

Chris Walker
Robert McFarland wrote
Don't forget the other 3 trains!!

Two of which are as clear as Mud, Robert.
UpSideDownC
in New Zealand
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