Yet Another DPL Gem: Unseen Clear Creek.

[Chris Walker]

[Todd Hackett]

At first I thought that may be the same event as these photos, but it doesn't make much sense to break the trains(s) into smaller sections between High Fill and High Bridge, and the proportions on #112s stack look different.

[Chris Walker]

Todd,

those are some sweet images

[SteveG]

Interesting use of a guard rail to limiting the scope of a derailment rather than preventing it there.
But the thing that caught my eye was the car behind the two excursion coaches, with what appear to be 6 pretty evenly spaced windows (the last two on the right may be exceptions). It doesn't match anything I can locate in Ken Martin's portfolio of passenger car drawings. Doesn't seem like a known business car, and the crowd in front of it argues against that anyway.
Anyone recognize it?

Steve Guty

[Chris Walker]

Looking at this closely......




The car resembles the window arrangement of D&RG Business Car K and appears to be Red, certainly a different colour from the others.... however there seems to be another darker Car trailing with similar window spacing.

Hopefully Ken will see this.

[Ken Martin]

I have seen this picture before although I can't find my copy and the end car is 912.
It is at DPL but a quick look this morning I couldn't find it.
The occasion was a Conductor convention in Denver with the obligatory ride up Clear Creek.
Apparently the D&RG decided their people would ride in their car, thus car "K".

Ken Martin

[Jim Courtney]

Chris and Todd,

Thanks so much for all the great "Loop" images -- I've never seen any of them.

And who knew, D&RG business cars up Clear Creek!

[Jimmy Blouch]

Approximate date would be interesting.
Is that available?

Jimmy

[Chris Walker]

[Mike Trent]

Thanks Chris. Wonderful that the high bridge was resurrected in the '80's. Otherwise, we could only imagine what this was like.

[Chris Walker]

Yes Mike,
I first went there in '82 and only had empty abutments to stare at.  But I sure wished the resurrection committee had insisted on cut stone being applied to the concrete piers of the replacement trestle.  

An aside: I think the original design was more aesthetically pleasing to the eye and revel in these early images.

[Chris Walker]

Guy Gulch location shots are rare, due in part for the difficulty in getting there unless riding the Train or a being an official photographer.

Even the Photographer got this location wrong, identifying the location as Beaver Brook.  The Rock strata is reversed in that location adjacent the Switchstand.  




Another couple of views of Beaver Brook.

[Todd Hackett]

Chris Walker wrote

...I sure wished the resurrection committee had insisted on cut stone being applied to the concrete piers of the replacement trestle...

The stone from the original piers was piled off to the side, and the original intent was to have faces cut from it to attach to the concrete footings, but the cost was too much for the initial grant. It was supposed to be done later, but never was. I remember hearing that the original bridge (even after the bracing was added) swaying significantly in the wind, but the new bridge with its rigid concrete footings is rock solid even in heavy winds.

[Chris Walker]

A bit of a change....







Cog railway

[Chris Walker]

And high water in Clear Creek...

[Jim Courtney]

Two great photos, Chris

The pilot view of C&S 62 must be in its last couple of years, prior to its scrapping in December of 1927. This is the only photo that I've seen where the wooden pilot has been replaced by a boiler tube pilot. The earliest dated photo of a boiler tube pilot on a C&S NG engine that I've seen is the Otto Perry photo of C&S 7, from the summer of 1925.

C&S 62 appears to be powering an excursion to Silver Plume. After the Romley branch was abandoned, occasional Clear Creek excursions seem to be 62's only work.

[Chris Walker]

A much darker version of this view is in Sundance's Colorado Central Railroad.

[Ken Martin]

I found my copy of this photo and it says "Roadmasters at Big Fill C.C.R.R. Colo." - Not conductors.
It is at the Colorado RR museum library / Western History Collection/ U of Colorado Lib.
as DL&G #112 and is #759-5-50.
So much for my memory.  

I am not good at D&RG cars but I believe car "K" became B-8 which is at the CRRM. So here is another car that once ran on the C&Sng.

Ken Martin

[Chris Walker]

Thanks for the reminder Ken......


Tough Cuss Pass, an unpublished view I believe. A similar view but with two men in the picture, is printed on pg 66 of Colorado Central Rail Road



The prominant rock can be seen in the centre distance, in this view at the DPL Z-11763

[Chris Walker]