Small South Park bridges

[Tim Schreiner]

After posting pics of remains of a box culvert. I thought I'd share pics of two bridges west of Red Hill. The bridges are about a quarter mile apart. Both are in remarkably good condition. The first one has been raised up. Probably by a rancher to allow livestock to travel under. I took these pics two years ago.

[Tim Schreiner]

[Tim Schreiner]

[Tim Schreiner]

Here is the second bridge that is farther west.

[Tim Schreiner]

[Robert McFarland]

Did you visit the town site of Red Hill?

[Jim Courtney]

It is interesting to contrast the differences between C&S and D&RGW/RGS trestle construction.

The D&RG/RGS used 6 stringers per span, the C&S evidently 8 stringers (but smaller?).

The D&RG/RGS used 8"x8" bridge ties spaced 4" apart.  The C&S appears to use 8x8 ties spaced further apart, likely 8 inches.

The D&RG/RGS bolted the outside guard timbers to every 5th or 6th tie.  The C&S evidently bolted the timbers to every tie, with bolts offset every other tie.

Great detail photos for bridge building!

[Bill Uffelman]

Going from memory but I believe that the C&S reinforced several of the bridges with additional stringers in later life -- Rocky Mountain Railroad Journal drawings as I recall -- all of my references are still in storage.

Bill Uffelman

Ocean View DE

On Friday, May 15, 2015 3:03 PM, Jim Courtney [via C&Sn3 Discussion Forum] <[hidden email]> wrote:

It is interesting to contrast the differences between C&S and D&RGW/RGS trestle construction.

The D&RG/RGS used 6 stringers per span, the C&S evidently 8 stringers (but smaller?).

The D&RG/RGS used 8"x8" bridge ties spaced 4" apart.  The C&S appears to use 8x8 ties spaced further apart, likely 8 inches.

The D&RG/RGS bolted the outside guard timbers to every 5th or 6th tie.  The C&S evidently bolted the timbers to every tie, with bolts offset every other tie.

Great detail photos for bridge building!

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[Tim Schreiner]

It's basically a dude ranch. Nothing to look at.

[Robert McFarland]

Sure,the town is long gone but it would be interesting to see what the site looks like.Do you have any pictures ?Somewhere NE of Garo there's a ranch that has a sign that says Arthurs,Colorado-have you seen that?

[Robert McFarland]

There is/was a small bridge in a pasture about 200yds from the road between Parlin and Ohio City-have you seen it?Is it still there?

[Tim Schreiner]

Haven't seen the bridge you are referring to, and I don't have any current photos of Red Hill.

[Rick Steele]

The bridges at Red Hill were still there as of last year when I drove down to visit the C&TS via US 285. They can be seen from the highway. As for the ones at Parlins, I can't testify to those because US 285 does not follow the C&S in that direction.

When I get home in a couple of days, I'll check the valuation field notes.

Many times the field Notes just say "Built as bridge No. (fill in the blank)". This sort of shorthand is done with many structures like Water Tanks, Water Closets, Coal Sheds and Depots. In Breckenridge the notes on the depot reads "Built as Dillon Depot" meaning that it was built in the same manner as the Dillon Depot as they both served the C&S concurrently.

The biggest problem for me is when the Coal Sheds or Tanks or bridges refer to a standard gauge structure that I don't have a cross reference for.

Rick