The Leadville Dunny For Keith.

[Chris Walker]

http://cdm16079.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/fullbrowser/collection/p15330coll22/id/83944/rv/singleitem/rec/69

[Jim Courtney]

Is that the 22nd C&S outhouse in Leadville, or is that its address?  (I don't see a mailbox.)

[Mike Trent]

That's quite a find, Chris. Thanks!

Anyone care to venture a guess as to it's color?

[Keith Hayes]

I have a Banta outhouse that will fit the bill. Now I need some N scale decals with the circular trademark in black....

[Keith Hayes]

That is the building number, Jim. I bet if you consult Rick's valuation map (posted elsewhere on this fine site), you may find a small box labled, '22.'

Then again, it may be where the Sears catalog is delivered annually.

[Rick Steele]

Probably listed as "22" in the Field Notes. That round C&S trademark is kid of interesting. The stencil for it was cut by a couple of modelers, from Boulder I believe, who went up to Leadville to see the operation before the C&S was sucked up into the BN . They had cut some circular and intertwined trademark stencils and gave them to the C&S people who were working up there.

I was told that the C&S boys who were working up there went crazy with them and painted them everywhere.

That W.C. photo is from the 1970's.

So Chris, you call it the Dunny? Interesting. The railroad called it the W.C. or water closet, although very few had anything near running water. Outhouse is more common. Biffy was commonly used. My favorite was always the Throne Room. It was still being used in Broomfield (C&S MP 14 Northern Division) when I was growing up. The agent had a big can of powdered lye that he'd sprinkle over it to keep the odor under control.

Rick

[Robert McFarland]

Is it true that the Como Hotel and Eating House didn't have indoor plumbing until AFTER the C&S shut down?Also check out the photo of the ruins of the Pacific Hotel-you'll find a his and hers BRICK W.C.-undamaged.

[Robert McFarland]

The only place I heard it called Biffy is in the NMRA Bullitin and they overused it-the word,that is.

[Chris Walker]

Rick,
Dunny is most prevalent down here, Bog was also another and ****ter is in common use; my Dad always refered to the outside loo as "the Doings" and kept going there after the Farmhouse got an indoor flush toilet.
In the Leadville picture there is a hose visible to the right?  I would suggest a waterline for a flushing cistern but while it would work here, that wouldn't fit in with your Winters, so probably not.

[Keith Hayes]

I found it interesting that the US Census inquired about indoor plumbing through the 1960 census. While I think the Goose loos on the RGS are well documented, it is not out of order for them to be modeled at all South Park and Clear Creek locations, not to mention many place names along the Evil Empire.

It is a miracle my own mother is alive. She frequently recalls her grandmothers outhouse in Leadville atop a repurposed mine shaft. The good news is, it never filled up (nor did it likely need lye); the bad news is you absolutely, positively did not want to fall in!

[Chris Walker]

http://digital.denverlibrary.org/cdm/fullbrowser/collection/p15330coll22/id/13212/rv/singleitem/rec/49

[Jeff Ramsey]

Anyone notice the original roundhouse door used in the snow fence behind the water closset.

[Keith Hayes]

Jeff, is that it on the left side of the WC?

I trust based on Rick's comments, this photo was taken well after the roundhouse was modified for SG use. Looking at it today, the C&S B&B department was pretty creative, converting a 6-stall NG roundhouse to a 3 or 4 stall SG building. They re-spaced out the columns and used beams to span over the columns and support the roof trusses. As the number of doors changed, and the new ones were wider, the old NG doors became surplus and, well, snow fence.

Too bad I will model the NG era, as a spare door casting could make a nice element in the background. I was just thinking today that I need to build the long coal sheds that lined the inbound and outbound lead. These will hide the background transition. Some snow fence would not hurt, either.

[Rick Steele]

Keith,

Just  suggestion. Did you ever think to use some roundhouse doors as snowfence, but to make the representation that they were worn out? Perhaps bowed like a locomotive hit them or burned like they were in a fire.

Most people don't realize it, but based on Hol Wagner's research that the roundhouse that we see in Leadville is the second one that has occupied that space. The original seven stall having burned in the early 1900's. There is your reason to use some of the Roundhouse doors on a snow fence...

Just an idea.

Rick

[Chris Walker]

http://digital.denverlibrary.org/cdm/fullbrowser/collection/p15330coll22/id/5655/rv/singleitem/rec/3234

[Keith Hayes]

An excellent idea, Rick!

[Robert McFarland]

Whose roundhouse burned in the 1880s?

[Chris Walker]

The D&RG's Roundhouse burned in 1885, losing 2 South Park locos in it.  
The C&S 8-stall Roundhouse burned 14th June 1912.