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Was there any similarity between the Tiffany car siding and the siding used on the Litchfield 26ft 600 series "Cardinal" boxcar?What about the siding used on the earlier Barney&Smith 26' boxcars or the later 27' and 30' DSP&P boxcars?
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Sounds like a good detective case.
Go for it, Sherlock. I wonder, though, where you would find the original specs. I know that a lot of builders used the "Double Board" Siding. That is one board with a center groove to look like individual boards (done for aesthetics or warpage? I'll go with warpage because it costs extra to cut the center groove. As far as the differences between the builders, your guess is as good as mine. I don't have any of the original construction specs from Barney & Smith, Litchfield, St. Charles, Peninsular or ACF. Rick |
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Maxwell plans on Crain's Railway Pages specify 5 1/4 T&G with a center bead for the 26' Litchfield boxcars.I was wondering what the siding was on the Leadville Shops Tiffany Reefers.Could this siding be used to build the Litchfield cars.
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Leadville Shops? Do you mean the Tiffany that was used as a storage shed outside the Leadville Roundhouse? I don't remember seeing any beadboard siding on that one, just the usual tongue-in-groove.
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Car siding has a groove in the middle not a bead like beaded ceiling/siding that these days is often used as wainscoting. Groove matches the edge bevel at the tongue and groove joint between two adjoining boards.
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Hows this for an image? What we call TG&V down here, except the V is more of a half-round groove.
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I note that your groove is off center unlike car siding. Bill Uffelman Ocean View DE On Friday, January 23, 2015 2:44 PM, Chris Walker [via C&Sn3 Discussion Forum] <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hows this for an image? What we call TG&V down here, except the V is more of a half-round groove.
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And the 1st layer beneath that has 1/4-1/2-1/4 spacing of the half-rounds, done for drainage I suppose.
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Does anyone care to speculate on the indented roof grabiron?
I offer that it was a refuge to lock the Brakemans Boot Heel whilst riding the moving car. What say you guys? .
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Here are some shots of the roof boards and siding on the DSP&P car that was at Cardinal. they clearly show the double grooves on the roof boards and that the "groove" on the car siding is really a "half round" bead.
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I was referring to the new laser-cut car kits produced by THE LEADVILLE SHOPS
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More like beaded ceiling than "car siding" -- guess that's what makes the South Park unique! Bill Uffelman On Friday, January 23, 2015 7:48 PM, Doug Heitkamp [via C&Sn3 Discussion Forum] <[hidden email]> wrote:
Here are some shots of the roof boards and siding on the DSP&P car that was at Cardinal. they clearly show the double grooves on the roof boards and that the "groove" on the car siding is really a "half round" bead.
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Please, a "Bead" is not a channel or groove but a protrusion as such the half-round edge found on the Flares of Tenders.
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I have a question about this subject...
How many splinters are in a board....? |
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All I have been saying from the beginning is: Can the Leadville Shops Tiffany siding be used to model the Cardinal boxcar,or is the spacing too big/small?
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Robert,
I don't know the answer - I don't own a kit to measure. Have you contacted them and asked? They have a Facebook page and Bill M. and Bob S. are on here, not sure about Doug J. Doug
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Robert. Really! Rick then Doug and now I'm telling you; no one knows because we don't have that information. We likely would have shared that info many times over already if we did! BTW did you do a search of the blog or any of the past groups or books?
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Ummm....actually the first question you posted was about siding comparisons of the prototype. I enjoyed and learned from the lesson which evolved. Thanks guys!
Have you made any of those fancy roof grabs brother d? |
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