Help with locations - South Platte Canyon to Leadville

[Todd Hackett]

Any ideas on where these were taken? I believe all are from a trip to Leadville and back in December 1936. If that's true, then the ones with more snow are likely to be higher and farther west. I've included some guesses, but haven't really taken the time to follow up. I have identified a lot of other photos from the trip, but need to move onto more scanning and other things. There are other photos in the group that I may need help with, but they probably aren't from the same trip.

04:


06:


10:


12 - Probably in South Park:


13:


14 - Maybe near Boraeas Pass?


18 - Probably South Park again, but I'm not sure where:


19 - Maybe looking down on Webster, but if so it's too high to get a good match from Street View, and doesn't match up too well to old photos from up on the hill:


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21:


22:


23:


24 - maybe near Boreas summit?:


25:


26:


27:


28 - maybe above Breckenridge?:


30:


32:


60:


64 - Webster maybe? Did Webster's tank have round legs?




65 - Probably the same tank from the other direction:


66 - I with they took a photo of the other side of that sign:


69 - Maybe just below Webster?
69

[South Park]

I can name most of them.

04  -  Deansbury bridge, looking eastbound
06  -  Breck-Dickey, looking eastbound
10  -  Boreas, just west of summit, west side, looking westbound
12  -  Just west of Como, looking eastbound
13  -  East side of Boreas, near summit.  See photo 30, same area.
14  -  West side Boreas, looking westbound.
18  -  Unsure.  The lattice power poles should be able to PID.
19  -  Looking down on Webster.  Everyone knows this spot !
20  -  Boreas, probably west side.  Note 2-wire telegraph.
21  -  Same, w/o telegraph visible
22  -  Platte Cañon.  Note 2-arm telegraph pole only ran to Como.
23  -  Platte Cañon.  Odd pole in background, looks power ???
24  -  Boreas, east side, looking westbound.
25  -  Platte Cañon, unsure where.
26  -  Platte Cañon, near Grant
27  -   Just west of Buffalo
28  -  East side Boreas Pass, looking eastbound.
30  -  West side Boreas, looking eastbound.  See photo 13
32  -  Same, looking eastbound.
60  -  Grant area, looking westbound.
64  -  Same
no number  -  Webster, looking eastbound.
65  -  Same, looking westbound.
66  -  Buffalo, looking eastbound
69  -  Webster

[Todd Hackett]

Thanks. That helps a lot. I'm not sure what happened, but the one labeled 64 should have been 63, and the text for 64 belonged with the un-numbered photo, which was supposed to be accompanied by this close-up of the tank legs:

[Chris Walker]

Todd,

thanks yet again for posting these great images, your efforts are truly appreciated.

and without any guessing...

04 is Deansbury in Platte Canon
06 is near Braddocks
13 looking up Hall Valley
14 just down from Climax
19 looking down on Webster
25 Platte Canon similar view in Klinger's P.C.Memories pg48
64/65 is Shawnee Tank (I see Jim C jumping for joy on those views )

66 I have a deja vue feelling on this one (maybe a later edit)
69 is at Webster.
p.s. Webster tank had sq. posts

[Alex Hois]

Todd,
Here are a couple guesses:

04: Deansbury bridge:
http://c-sng-discussion-forum.254.s1.nabble.com/Deansbury-Bridge-HAER-Resource-tp2450p2703.html

06: Tailings north of Breckenridge

12: North-east of Jefferson, looking back towards Kenosha pass, North and South Twin Cone.


13, 20, 21: Halfway beween Webster and Kenosha pass

18: Looking back to southpark on the way up to Kenosha pass. Michigan hill in the valley

19: Looking down towards Webster




22,23,25,66(?): Between Crossons and Estabrook

28: Kenosha pass near Hoosier, looking east towards North Twin Cone.

60: Near Shawnee

64, 65: Shawnee tank

69: At Webster

Alex

[Norm Acker]

Wow, I don't think I've ever seen photos of the Shawnee tank before, and I sure didn't expect to see the cast supports like the Idaho Springs tank, very cool!

[Jeff Young]

Pretty sure 24 is west side of Boreas, looking eastbound.

And I'd put 10 on the east side, looking westbound, in the vicinity of where the 1936 shoofly for the 75/73 wreck meets the grade.

[Todd Hackett]

The Shawnee tank location is a bit off the highway, and the view from the highway is a bit obscured, so I couldn't confirm the background (but the westbound view does appear to match). Also, the ICC map shows this for the Shawnee tank: "10 Iron Posts, 6" Diam. Set on Stone Piers." That seem to confirm.

[Southpark]

Damn!  That is a 3 beer post! #14 is from an EB train at Kokomo.  I gave a wrong ID of Boreas in our Platte Canon book.  The shots at the Shawnee tank are killers!  It was located west of the depot 1/3-1/2 mile.  Got to go back and look at those again and again.
Tom Klinger

[Chris Walker]

Tom, Todd and other interested parties....

Jim Courtney posted this picture asking if it was Shawnee quite some time ago.  Maybe not, in hindsight!  The giveaway(to me, at least) was the piles of cinders along the trackside.

I was thinking it was, given the Cast Iron legs but never could find any backup pictures, forgot where I saved it to, forgot where who might have posted it and simply forgot about it.   Usually I pursue this stuff for you guys to the end: not this time I'm sorry to say.

  Photo  not  from the Collection of Jim Courtney.


As for photo 14, South Park really had me doubting myself on being "below Climax".
A confirming view with non-Boreas smokestack.
https://localhistory.boulderlibrary.org/islandora/object/islandora%3A59670
Paddock Collection.

[Jim Courtney]

Wow!  A guy goes away for a week, and there is an explosion of fantastic photographs, on multiple threads.

Todd, thanks so much for posting the great views of Shawnee tank, the only two that I've ever seen. Now, before I die, I actually know what it looks like!

And, Chris, the photo that I posted long ago, was this one, with the black excursionists:


http://c-sng-discussion-forum.254.s1.nabble.com/Help-Identify-this-C-amp-S-Water-Tank-td3647.html

You correctly identified it as the Idaho Springs tank. I've never seen the photo that you juct posted of the Leadville passenger at Shawnee--you've been holding out on me!

[Chris Walker]

Well Duh! Jim.  Apparently I was holding out on you: I just hadn't realised I was. "Sorry about that, Chief."

[Jeff Ramsey]

Yep, Shawnee Tank, of Union Pacific design with the iron substructure.

[Todd Hackett]

I got some more photos from the same collection. Most were family and scenery photos that I won't be keeping. Of the ones worth keeping, most were easy to identify - mostly Singleton with a few at Buffalo and South Platte and not much that's really interesting. I was able to identify a few more using Klinger's "C&S Platte Canyon Memories & Then Some." There are a few that are or may be railroad related that I could use some help with.

I'll start with one that I was not only able to identify based on what I saw in Klinger's book, but match up with Google Street View. It's looking across the valley at the Shawnee depot.

Here's the original image followed by the Street View:




The next one I think is the bridge below Estabrook looking down, but my confidence isn't high:


These two appear to be the same spot, but I can't identify it. It looks to be in Platte Canyon, and is in a spot with two tracks.




This one may also be the same area as the last two:


This last one looks like its somewhere in South Park. I'm not sure if it's railroad related, but thought I see if anyone recognized it. There appear to be some smokestacks in the background. Possibly something related to the salt works?

[Chris Walker]

Nice finds Todd.  

This last one looks like its somewhere in South Park. I'm not sure if it's railroad related, but thought I see if anyone recognized it. There appear to be some smokestacks in the background. Possibly something related to the salt works?

Try Arkansas Valley Smelter, those peaks are all visible looking West at Malta.

edit: your Truss is a match for the picture on pg134 of Plate Canon Memories,
but it is not the Bridge in the DPL https://digital.denverlibrary.org/digital/collection/p15330coll22/id/12476

[Keith Hayes]

Might the view with double tracks be cabins near the ice lakes at Maddox?

[Todd Hackett]

Chris Walker wrote

...Try Arkansas Valley Smelter...

That looks like it. I should have recognized the peaks - Mt. Elbert on the left and Mt. Massive on the right, so Arkansas Valley, not South Park.

[Southpark]

I am not sure I want to put  my hat in the ring on these IDs.  On the last 2-3 images with the cabins across from a siding I would say, what  about the area of Singleton(Kline) and Weller?  These locations just west of Long Meadow.  Tom Klinger