C&S 9 in 1936 or 1937?

[Kurt Maechner]

Found an interesting stock photo video clip of C&S 9 pulling out of a station.  It purports to be take at Denver in 1936.  Considering the gaggle of people on the back coach platform I wondered if it was the last passenger run in 1937.  What do you all think?
Enjoy,
Kurt

[South Park]

Gaggles were outlawed throughout the Depression years in Colorado.

[Southpark]

Two points on the film clip.  The clip is not at Denver.  It may be departing Sheridan Jct, or is it arriving in the afternoon?  The shadows of the tree without foliage is the AM or PM clue.  Also note the clean smoke box.  Too bad these "stray" clips cannot be collected and put together.
Tom Klinger

[Jim Courtney]

The is now a Youtube posting of clips from Helen Tatum's B&W footage of the C&SnG in Platte Canon, Kenosha and Como.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVfeldgXQYo

Especially interesting is the ice harvest at Maddox.

[Chris Walker]

Date is 10th April 1937.
Definitely the last train from Leadville departing Sheridan Jct for Denver, #60 was on the head for Leadville.

OP-6199

http://digital.denverlibrary.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15330coll22/id/42511/rec/66

[Mike Trent]

Actually, Chris, I think #60 had the last train #70 only from Denver to Como. I'm pretty sure #9 took the train to Leadville and returned to Denver the following day. But I definitely agree this is probably the last run into Denver behind #9. #60 may have been a helper on the last Eastbound freight from Como. I believe that somebody who counted wanted to give #60 the honor of the last run out of Union Station. Nothing else really makes any sense. I'm quite sure #60 was usually the emergency engine in Como. And on April 8th, the emergency was probably that the next day was the last train 70. Whatever the reason I don't think it was a coincidence.  

[Chris Walker]

Mike,  

you are correct,  

I should have stated #60 started the last run to Leadville out of Denver, the #9 took over at Como, the #9 ran the last train back to Denver from Leadville.  

The reason I wrote it the way I did was there was pontification on whether or not the film in question was of the train headed to or from Leadville.  John Schapekahn would have said it was something to do with shadows or such

The use of the #9 confirms it was the return trip and this was obviously at Sheridan Jct.

As to why the #60 was used?

Obviously the #9 was aready in Como, since photo's show there wasn't a double header and the #60 was wanted(for whatever reason) in Como, the "last Train" just happened to provide the vehicle to accomplish the power swap.  
Recent pictures being posted on the internet of power moves of up to 5 loco's on the Southbound pasenger run taken back in the late 80's here caused some remarking re the 5 horses on a 3-car train.  This was at the time to get needed power to the other end of the line since the trains that would normally have got that power down there were cancelled due to a M-o-W work window.  Easier and cheaper than a light loco move.

[nickgully]

Great photograph. Does anybody recognize the location? Is that water tank in the distance in Littleton, or perhaps the Gates Rubber water tank?

Thanks,
 Nick Gully

[Daniel Frauenhoff]

Otto Perry was standing at the base of Ruby Hill Park in southwest Denver for this shot. The bridge is milepost 5.11 as seen in the photograph Chris posted. I compared a similar shot Otto took the year earlier of #9 pulling train #70 on November 6, 1936.



Daniel

[Keith Hayes]

Nick, I think this must be just south of Littleton. I believe there was such a water tank there.

The one at Gates (which is presently in two parts on the ground, and will hopefully get incorporated in the new development) was almost directly on the river, not well inland as in the photo.