About the model ~ CB&Q #537

Posted by Mike Trent on
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In 1984 when this engine was built, Caboose Hobbies had a wall in their store devoted to brass castings, and I spent a lot of time there looking for anything I could find that might work for various things.

After taking what seemed like a lot of time looking for similarities between information I could get my hands on for #537 and comparing that to what I could unearth on the D&RGW C-21's, I decided that it would be possible to at least build a credible model of #537. The big thing that proves the similarities between them are the closeness of the Baldwin Construction numbers.

Any reluctance I had melted away from goading by Larry Edwards and what I thought was a really good price on an old Balboa C-21 on consinment in the brass showcase.

After having completely stripped and rebuilt my B-4-F engines, I was pretty well used to whacking a brass locomotive down to bits and starting over.

The tender was reworked from a Precision Scale tender kit, carefully removing the flair from the rear of the tank, and using information from the C&S folio sheet for the frame dimensions.

The "steel" cab was fabricated using side dimensions from #74 after reaching the conclusion that the C&S would have probably used as much of the design from the B-4-F class as possible, and I think it turned out perfect. The roof was one of those things I took a shot on from the parts wall at Caboose, and was listed as a roof for a Shay. The sand domes were also from a Lima Shay, and the steam dome was a PSC casting that I rounded by sanding.

I found a PSC smokebox for something, and shortened it to extend the short Balboa smokebox. I was able to cut out a little at the bottom to reshape it to the exact diameter.

The detailing was made possible by Ed Haley's most generous willingness to share photographs from his excellent collection. I had photographs from every possible angle and compared them to each other until I dreamed about them. One of the airpumps was found to be more or less handmade in the shop from parts using two halves made for air as there were no cooling fins. So two perfectly good 9 1/2 airpumps were cut up to be reborn as that cobbled up pump I saw in one of the clearer pictures. I was also able to discern the differing diameters of the steam lines that fed the pumps, and, from all the various angles I had, could, when that time came, identify every pipe as to what it was and where it came from and where it went.

As previously mentioned, Hol Wagner was also of great help sharing information from his files from George Lundberg. Lundberg had retired from the C&S as Superintendant of Motive Power, and had succeeded HW Ridgway as Master Mechanic years earlier. Years after retirement, he befriended a very young Hol Wagner and shared a lot of information with him, and after he passed, left Hol his notebooks and some other information and items he had kept. Hol was also of great help to me in sharing what he knew about how #537 was probably painted in it's time on the C&S. For sure, he said, the numbers and reporting data on the cab were gold. After looking at pictures till I was nearly blind, I was sure that for most of it's time on the C&S, #537 did not have the red border around it's Burlington tender herald, and could not find any evidence that the herald on #537 was a size ever used on a CB&Q engine. But all of the C&S/Q engines we ever saw as kids were Standard Gauge. Burlington heralds were not used in the Black Hills. After scouring through various decal sets at Caboose, I found a freight car set which had a plain stenciled Burlington herald that appeared to be the correct size for #537, and Holl agreed, not only that they had actually probably used a freight car herald to make #537 look like a bona-fide "Q" locomotive, but that at that time the red borders were very rare, and were only widely used in the 40's. It is interesting that there are photos which do show the red border very late in Hol's history of #537 in the "Burlington Bulletin". But he agreed that in earlier years it clearly did not have the red border. I asked him about the red cab roof that was commonly used on both C&S and "Q" engines in the years we (and Rick) grew up with C&S in our blood, and he said that that was also rare before 1940, but that it "was possible" that #537 had a red roof. I really wanted to do it, more or less as a tribute to the C&S we grew up with as kids, but I told him I'd weather it down, to which he agreed wholeheartedly. Ironically, when Hol contacted me years later to see if I had a picture of my model for inclusion in the "Bulletin", the only one I had readily available was taken before it was finished, and you can clearly see the red cab roof.

Late in '84, this engine appeared at both the Rocky Mountain Regional Convention and the National Narrow Gauge Convention, so it was seen by quite a few folks.

In 1994 I sold #537 to Tom Marsh of Overland Models for use as a prototype from which a multi-scale project would be produced. Unfortunately, it was damaged in shipping, and was never repaired before Tom had a falling out with M.S Models, who built all of the C&S projects except the cabooses in On3. I was aware that he had produced some projects in Sn3, but I thought they were all ones I had worked on in the 80's.

To make a long story short, Tom sold #537 to a doctor in Missouri about 10 years later, and then the Doc contacted me in 2012 to see if I wanted to buy it back. And here it is.

The great thing about this hobby is that you can do pretty much anything if you set your mind to it.