Re: 1902 coal car lettering details

Posted by Jim Courtney on
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I don't think so, Bill.  

Doug's photo likely predates the arrival of the Bettendorf trucked wood and steel underframe cars.  The reweigh date of 1083 is 1-1905. The coal and flat cars Jeff is interested in were built by the C&S in 1902 from American Steel & Foundry steel hardware and rode on 4-foot wheel base ASF arch bar trunks. In Harry Brunk nomenclature, they are Phase 1 freight cars. In Derrell Poole nomenclature, they are part of the group of ASF cars (stock 1900, coal and flat 1902, a couple of odd boxcars 1903-06, and the 8067-8102 series boxcars of 1907).

I cropped Doug's original photo to highlight the 1902 car.  The original:



I'm not sure what to make of the three flat cars behind 1083, but I suspect they are all various rebuilds of old 26 and 30 foot inherited cars from the DL&G.  The second car with the skinny, straight side sills suggests to me a rebuilt Litchfield 26' flat. The third car with skinny straight sills and all the stake pockets, perhaps a rebuilt 30' Peninsular flat, with the outside truss rod on queen posts. The last car might be an un-rebuilt Litchfield flat with the wider, tapered sills and no visible truss rod.  Impossible to know for sure.  

We can discuss the rebuilt variations of the 26 and 30 foot inherited flats if you'd like, but that's another confusing, complicated topic.

Jim