Re: 1902 coal car lettering details

Posted by Jim Courtney on Oct 25, 2015; 7:16pm
URL: http://c-sng-discussion-forum.254.s1.nabble.com/1902-coal-car-lettering-details-tp3705p3766.html

The two cars to the left, I believe, are 1883 UP built boxcars of 27 feet.  Again, both have the 14 ton "coal car" trucks as early as 1901.  I'm beginning to think that all the 27 foot UP built cars (coal, box, maybe even the 27 foot St Charles built Tiffany reefers) were delivered with the 14 ton "coal car" trucks (what Doug Heitkamp calls the type-C truck), not the so called "type B" truck of Coronado Scale Models nomenclature.

The box car to the right is a 30 foot Peninsular car of 1884; it has a single outside truss rod on queen posts, and no side poling pockets.

Both types of box cars likely survived as outfit car rebuilds in 1925, Jeff, like this one:

http://digital.denverlibrary.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15330coll22/id/78391/rec/787



Some early photos of both cars:

Both: http://cdm16079.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15330coll21/id/7141/rec/118


Number 1049 is a 30 foot Peninsular boxcar, while 840 is a 27 foot UP built car.




Look how tall the transoms under the Tiffany reefer in the same train look.


http://cdm16079.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15330coll21/id/9869/rec/167


And the transoms on the trucks of these two Tiffanies also look very tall, especially compared with the 12 ton Litchfield trucks under the coal car that follows. And, Jeff, note the early culvert under the second Tiffany reefer.

Is it possible that what we think of as the "type B" swing beam truck is actually the 20 ton Peninsular truck of 1884, used only on Peninsular 30 foot box, coal and flat cars?

What say you Ron Rudnick??