Re: DSP&P Passenger Car Research
Posted by drgwcs on Mar 25, 2025; 8:38pm
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Pick your seat
In a previous discussion on the excursion cars that was linked earlier there was a bit of a discussion on plans and seats- since that point I had gotten Abbott's Colorado Central Book. I am still looking through there (had to set it aside for a while as the ink irritated my allergies) but there are several good photos of the excursion cars as well as a good interior photos. Besides the early ones that were built on flats there were three series of these. Here is a copy of Maxwell's plans
120-131 are 40 over end sills and 47'6" over the buffers These are noted as having slat seats and that shows in a photo from Mt McClelland of 131 These have thinner side posts than the other two series.
132-137 were shorter at 41' 8" over the buffers and had the narrower end pillars. They also had fancier posts on the side.
138-148 were also 40 over end sills and 47'6" over the buffers. The side walls here were beefier. These appear to have rattan seats with a ladder back wood construction. The weave seems to be something you can see through looking at the pic. (nice on a hot summer day)
But there is more-
Abbott's book has this on page 133 of a UPD&G excursion car.
These seats look quite different- tighter weave and more of a commercial seat- the coarseness and the caption both point to Rattan again. These look like different seats than before and are not see through plus they have a curve to them. Even more curious is the fact that the side pillars look on the outside of the interior sheeting. This may be an under construction photo?? The column width appears beefier that the 120-131 series and does not have the details of the 132-137 series pillars so I am assuming a 138-148 series???
I had figured to model the open rattan seats with stripwood and a ribbon that was an open weave that I had found at Hobby Lobby. This new picture makes me rethink a little- perhaps adding a texture to Grandt line/ San Juan seats in HO?
I did find some striped green and cream ribbon for the shades. The pattern is not exact as is is missing the very narrow stripe but it should work.
URL: http://c-sng-discussion-forum.254.s1.nabble.com/DSP-P-Passenger-Car-Research-tp20585p20626.html
Pick your seat
In a previous discussion on the excursion cars that was linked earlier there was a bit of a discussion on plans and seats- since that point I had gotten Abbott's Colorado Central Book. I am still looking through there (had to set it aside for a while as the ink irritated my allergies) but there are several good photos of the excursion cars as well as a good interior photos. Besides the early ones that were built on flats there were three series of these. Here is a copy of Maxwell's plans
120-131 are 40 over end sills and 47'6" over the buffers These are noted as having slat seats and that shows in a photo from Mt McClelland of 131 These have thinner side posts than the other two series.
132-137 were shorter at 41' 8" over the buffers and had the narrower end pillars. They also had fancier posts on the side.
138-148 were also 40 over end sills and 47'6" over the buffers. The side walls here were beefier. These appear to have rattan seats with a ladder back wood construction. The weave seems to be something you can see through looking at the pic. (nice on a hot summer day)
But there is more-
Abbott's book has this on page 133 of a UPD&G excursion car.
These seats look quite different- tighter weave and more of a commercial seat- the coarseness and the caption both point to Rattan again. These look like different seats than before and are not see through plus they have a curve to them. Even more curious is the fact that the side pillars look on the outside of the interior sheeting. This may be an under construction photo?? The column width appears beefier that the 120-131 series and does not have the details of the 132-137 series pillars so I am assuming a 138-148 series???
I had figured to model the open rattan seats with stripwood and a ribbon that was an open weave that I had found at Hobby Lobby. This new picture makes me rethink a little- perhaps adding a texture to Grandt line/ San Juan seats in HO?
I did find some striped green and cream ribbon for the shades. The pattern is not exact as is is missing the very narrow stripe but it should work.
Jim Curran
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