Re: Flanger 015
Posted by Dave Eggleston on May 25, 2024; 12:37am
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Just to add a bit to the history, I was recently looking into the flangers’ early lives and as far as I can tell the four were built by the UP and they came earlier than the 1885 date I’ve generally seen given in printed sources.
Definitive information turned up in the pages of the “Boston” South Park journal (Ron Rudnick’s name for the volume at CO Historical Society), which records a series of equipment purchases, primarily items built by the UP. On page 28, for December 1883 equipment expenses is an entry for “2 Ice Flangers”. I believe these are the first two South Park flangers, #5 and #6 (later C&S 013 and 014).
Next, page 61 of the “Boston” journal records expenses for two “New Flangers” in March 1887, one with 26” wheels, the other with 30” wheels, both marked “DSP&P” so are narrow gauge. I believe these are flangers #7 and #8 (later C&S 015 and 016). Can anyone explain the different wheel sizes?
As to frame construction, the 1889 Locos, Plows and Equipment shows flangers 05-08 to be wood and iron frames. But there’s a mystery: flanger 04 is also listed for the DSP&P, a fifth flanger listed no place else I’ve seen. Possibly a clerical error.
As to the flangers, one item showing in the Rocky Mountain News in Jan 1885 recounts the South Park sending snow fighting equipment ahead of the train on the High Line, the first newspaper reference to use the word "flanger" that I've seen so far for the South Park--but reads as an engine-mounted flanger rather than a separate car.
Finally, in December 1885 the D&RG's Leadville forman of motive power developed and built a "patent" flanger which was used, per the papers, regularly on Marshall Pass. Gunnison Review Press Dec 12 1885:
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Just to add a bit to the history, I was recently looking into the flangers’ early lives and as far as I can tell the four were built by the UP and they came earlier than the 1885 date I’ve generally seen given in printed sources.
Definitive information turned up in the pages of the “Boston” South Park journal (Ron Rudnick’s name for the volume at CO Historical Society), which records a series of equipment purchases, primarily items built by the UP. On page 28, for December 1883 equipment expenses is an entry for “2 Ice Flangers”. I believe these are the first two South Park flangers, #5 and #6 (later C&S 013 and 014).
Next, page 61 of the “Boston” journal records expenses for two “New Flangers” in March 1887, one with 26” wheels, the other with 30” wheels, both marked “DSP&P” so are narrow gauge. I believe these are flangers #7 and #8 (later C&S 015 and 016). Can anyone explain the different wheel sizes?
As to frame construction, the 1889 Locos, Plows and Equipment shows flangers 05-08 to be wood and iron frames. But there’s a mystery: flanger 04 is also listed for the DSP&P, a fifth flanger listed no place else I’ve seen. Possibly a clerical error.
As to the flangers, one item showing in the Rocky Mountain News in Jan 1885 recounts the South Park sending snow fighting equipment ahead of the train on the High Line, the first newspaper reference to use the word "flanger" that I've seen so far for the South Park--but reads as an engine-mounted flanger rather than a separate car.
Finally, in December 1885 the D&RG's Leadville forman of motive power developed and built a "patent" flanger which was used, per the papers, regularly on Marshall Pass. Gunnison Review Press Dec 12 1885:
Dave Eggleston
Seattle, WA
Seattle, WA
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