Snowplow Information
Posted by Mike Trent on
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From the C&S Brass Post. Jim, can you repost the photos? Looks like they didn't make the trip.
Wow, Mike, was nothing standard on the C&Sng?
I measured my plows, all are 42" from the bottom of the blade center to the top of the blade, so they were likely based on C&S 2-6-0s. And 3 out of 4 have the extra plates under the pilot beam and the coupler draft gear, like on number 9. One doesn't, must have come from a number 60, can't remember. So, I have both plows.
As for fitting under the larger 2-8-0s, I'm backdating my 71 to about 1924, based on the Otto Perry photo. This is what I'm aiming for:
And this is as far as I've gotten:
I think the plow looks pretty good, though now that you've gone and mentioned it, I'll probably file off the little plates ala number 9.
Or, by larger engines, are you referring to the big B4-Fs??
The plow on number 75 looks pretty tall, too.
Jim Courtney
Poulsbo, WA
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Mar 10, 2024; 8:32pm Re: C&S Brass, Any Scale, Listed on eBay
Mike Trentonline
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Jim, life and knowledge are continuing journeys. You have just nailed a couple of things for me, previously missed.
You included photos of #71 and #75, and both appear to have 42" plows. The model of #71 from OMI where we discovered the 2nd version, is 36" high, not 42". The B-4-D's are where the "Bigger" 2-8-0's begin, as compared to the B-4-C's and smaller. I used 36" plows on my #71, #73, #74, and #75. I am very sure #71 and #74 had 36" plows. The reason for this is that both #71 and #74 were fitted with newer flat faced smokebox fronts with larger doors. In your picture, #71 still has the slightly extended "UP Style" front end on the smokebox, and so does #75. Those have smaller radius doors which allow the 42" plows. So thanks for the followup. No, I'm not changing the others. But note that the second version is 36", not 42". Im going to venture a guess that the plow without the welded plates at the pilot beam is from your or someone's #60.
Keith, don't get too carried away yet with the Upper Coal Gates. I'll start another post on them and how they were used. The only thing they had in common was that they were all made with 2X4's and they were
each made to fit each locomotive. I'll try to do that tomorrow.
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Mar 11, 2024; 8:40am Re: C&S Brass, Any Scale, Listed on eBay
Norm Acker
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Hi Mike,
Thanks for all of the great plow information.
I should have dug a little deeper into photos before I had that wild hair with SketchUp a few days ago! We all joke about the "standards" used on our favorite railroad and that certainly applies to plows and coal gates as well. 20/20 hindsight is my specialty sometimes, ha.
I grabbed my scale ruler and drew that from an Ed Gebhart drawing in a 1996 copy of the "Bear Trap" that Paul Howald gave me a few years ago. Silly me for assuming that they were all alike... Back when I started out in On30 I scratched one out of stripwood for my Bachmann #22 on a whim (I use it for Christmas tree circling duty these days), but I figured that I needed about 8 of them so why not save some time.
I was so excited that Keith helped me out (thanks again, Keith!) by finishing the 3d drawing with the hardware and posting them to Shapeways - I'm using an old free version of SketchUp 8 and I was intimidated at the thought of drawing carriage bolts - that I immediately ordered 12 of them. So I'll have to do some modifications to be loco-specific as I add coal loads and details to some of my fleet.
Thanks again everyone for the great information that you share here, I really appreciate it!
Cheers, Norm
Norm in Littleton, CO
- on the C&S Silica Branch
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