Re: Eight wheel Caboose on C&Sng?

Posted by Derrell Poole on
URL: http://c-sng-discussion-forum.254.s1.nabble.com/Eight-wheel-Caboose-on-C-Sng-tp488p1864.html

So in summary, so far as the 4 wheeled car is concerned, we really haven't gone anywhere. The possibility of where the car came from could be - anywhere. The probability was either the KC or the U&N. A car documented on line in Colorado seems the more likely - to me, at least. The actual replacement number is also open. It could have been any of the numbers that came to the C&S. The lowest number vacant seems the most likely. Would that have been 1500? If we believe the ORER, original number 60 became that car in 1885. Was it still that car in 1898?

It is interesting to note that in a 1903 roster all of the former South Park cars were nearly identical in size - inside dimensions - (average 12'-5" length) except 303. (Three cars were listed without dimensions). 303 was at least 2 feet longer than any of the other cars. The dimensions are Pre - C&S rebuild (standard) of 1908. Explanations for this difference can include; either this car, which by simple appearances, was the oldest car on the roster (taking the ORER at its word), was either extensively rebuilt prior to 1899 or that it was built for a different road; Heads one, Tails the other.

As to the 8 wheeled car; I believe we can consider this to have been an 8 wheeled two-truck car - with the customary uncertainty that this is still not a fact. In this regard I think the discussion has been fruitful. Where the car came from, as a question, also seems to have been advanced; as a question it is no longer so vague. But we still cannot be certain if the car came from the U&N or from the UPD&G's own eclectic collection of assorted RR equipment from a dozen (some merely being paper roads) different companies of its consolidation. UR from the KC for that matter. Was it a former boxcar or that unique U&N dinki baggie? Is the car at Como the former C&S 302 / 0302 / 087?...

Will new evidence turn up? Will Erica finally give in to J.R.'s inappropriate advances?

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