Re: Eight wheel Caboose on C&Sng?

Posted by Derrell Poole on
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1884 UP Annual report -

CCng - 2 waycar & caboose cars
CCsg - 4 waycar & caboose cars
DSP&P - 21 waycar & caboose cars
KCng - 4 waycar & caboose cars
OSL - 12 waycar & caboose cars
U&N - 19 waycar & caboose cars

1885 UP Annual report -

CCng - 2 caboose
CCsg - 11 caboose
DSP&P - 19 caboose
KCng - 4 caboose
OSL - 12 caboose
U&N - 23 caboose

1886 UP Annual report -

CCng - 2 caboose
CCsg - 11 caboose
DSP&P - 19 caboose
KCng - 4 caboose
OSL - 12 caboose
U&N - 22 caboose

1888 UP Annual report -

CCng - 2 caboose
CCsg - 11 caboose
DSP&P - 17 caboose
KCng - 4 caboose
OSL - 12 caboose
U&Nng - 17 caboose
U&Nsg - 20 caboose

1889 UP Annual report -

CCng - 2 caboose
CCsg - 11 caboose
DL&G - 17 caboose
KCng - 4 caboose
OSL&UNng - 16 caboose*
OSL&UNsg - 39 caboose*
*Consolidation of several lines 1 Aug. 1889
1890 UP Annual report -

UPD&Gng - 2 caboose
UPD&Gsg - 29 caboose
DL&G - 16 caboose
KCng - 4 caboose
OSL&UNng - 14 caboose
OSL&UNsg - 47 caboose

1891 UP Annual report -

UPD&Gng - 2 caboose
UPD&Gsg - 39 caboose
DL&G - 16 caboose
KCng - 4 caboose
OSL&UNng - 14 caboose
OSL&UNsg - 65 caboose

1892 UP Annual report -

UPD&Gng - 2 caboose
UPD&Gsg - 37 caboose
DL&G - 15 caboose
KCng - 4 caboose
OSL&UNng - 14 caboose
OSL&UNsg - 64 caboose

1893 UP Annual report -

UPD&Gng - 2 caboose
UPD&Gsg - 40 caboose
DL&G - 11 caboose
KCng - 4 caboose
OSL&UNng - 11 caboose
OSL&UNsg - 65 caboose

1896 UP Annual report -

KCng - 3 caboose
OSL&UNng - 11 caboose
OSL&UNsg - 65 caboose

1893 DL&G Auditors Journal pg. 74 - Dr. to New Equipment (account #12?)
"For this company's proportion of the amount  standing at Credit of Vacated Equipment Account on the books of the Operating Dept. of the UP RY. Co. as of 12 Cot. 1893 now transferred to Credit of New Equipment."

Caboose   $1,131.80  

1894 DL&G Auditors Journal pg. 82 - 17 Cabooses @ 450.00 each ($7650.00).
Pg. 84 -  "Estimated cost of unserviceable cars ... dropped from the Equipment on 13 Oct. 1893... (incorrectly carried as active) ...now charged to Profit and Loss (account) and credited  to the Equipment that said account may be corrected..."  (to reflect equipment actually in service);

2 outfit cars @ 900.00
1 caboose @ 1000.00
1 box car @530.00

[in other words $1000.00 is being credited back to Equipment to correct an incorrect caboose roster that contained more cars than existed - and most likely it actually indicated several cars]

1895 - 1898 UPD&G Annual reports -
NG Cabooses - 3  

June 1898 DL&G Annual Report - 12 Cabooses with Westinghouse brakes and Selden couplers

Jan. 1899 DL&G Annual Report - 12 Cabooses

Questions - were all four of the KC cars bobbers? How many U&N cars were bobbers?

Apparently the two KC boxcars you've listed, converted to sg cabooses, were not being reported in the UP ARs as cabooses. This lends credence to Hol's observations that converted box cars were typically temporary.

I'm sure you don't intend the "* note" to apply to the 27' cars to the Colorado roads as they were not used on SG so far as we have records to show. One thing about the 27' boxcars that is my understanding; they were already on the UPD&G and DL&G and had been since perhaps 1890 or '91. But no evidence of a caboose. Not an inhibitor to the possibility that a KC caboose came to the DL&G in late 1895. Still there isn't any evidence of the other cars coming to the Colorado ngs at that time, that I am aware of.

But I need to know 1601 went back to Utah prior to 1896 since I have documentation it was on line in Colorado in 1895. Under a lease or otherwise. Them's the brightest dots I see...