Re: Need info on early C&S inherited coal cars -- how were they numbered??

Posted by Jim Courtney on
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Thanks Dave,

Can't believe I've gone 20+ years not knowing that Ron had a 3rd book. I found a post by Ron from April of last year with his mailing address and price for the UPDG/DL&G book.  My order will be in tomorrow's mail.

Yes, if you scan or photo the page with the C&S roster information and email it to me, that will be great.

As an example of answering one's own question, I found my mislaid copy of Maxwell's drawings of the 1882-83 UP built 27 foot coal cars today. In the margin, he noted that the C&S numbered them 4626 thru 4789, based on a C&S folio sheet (that I have never seen).
That suggests that 164 of the 27 foot coal cars were still in service at the dawn of the new C&S. But only 10 years later, a June, 1909, inventory of freight cars in one of the Klingers' books, shows them to be all gone, replaced by the new 30 foot coal cars built between 1902 and 1908.

That also means that only 26 numbers were available for the 24' and 26' coal cars. Ron's roster will hopefully assign numbers and sort out which was which.

Have you also looked at the ORERs for the early years of the C&S?

I've never had access to them -- do you have copies to share? Are they such that they would be appropriate for the "Files" section on this site for others to access?

I also wanted to post a photo of a Peninsular 30' coal car in 1900. Location is at the Gold Pan Shops in Breckenridge. I found it in the Mather Archives photograph collection:

https://matherarchives.com/photograph-collection/item/?cat=photo&id=9B38411C-CB26-45F8-A8D3-089150529324



The car number is not legible, but the car lading is interesting. Can someone tell me what the large half circle piece of metal is at the far end of the car? The caption describes it as a "bull wheel" (or half of one, I guess).

Sandra Mather, PhD, is a historian who has published many books on Breckenridge and Summit County. Her on-line photo collection is interesting, with lots of Breckenridge related photos, Gold Pan Shops, dredges, mines and mills. etc. in Summit County.

There are a few C&S related images you might like, for instance:

https://matherarchives.com/photograph-collection/item/?cat=photo&id=8AF41780-C4B4-4546-9A8F-089094038370

https://matherarchives.com/photograph-collection/item/?cat=photo&id=8812254C-FF85-40D9-8D1E-074813043355