Re: Type C/UP trucks
Posted by Dave Eggleston on Apr 24, 2020; 4:20pm
URL: http://c-sng-discussion-forum.254.s1.nabble.com/Type-C-UP-trucks-tp15497p15556.html
Phil,
That car is the second one in this picture. IIRC, that car is NC boxcar 253, a boxcar built in 1874 by Thomas Carter (pre Carter Brothers) for the Monterey & Salinas Valley. It would've been riding an early Carter truck up to the line's scrapping in 1938 but lost its trucks at that time. The car was grounded and sat in Battle Mountain until spotted by a local Nevada collector of dubious background. He "collected" a lot of "abandoned" equipment and moved it to a ranch he had. This hoard of equipment moved around Nevada and at one point was made operational for a tourist scheme in the early 1950s.
The trucks it is sitting on, if also from the NC, could be 1881 UP for flatcars built new for the NC, placed under the car for this display--but those cars were all scrapped in 1938 before the collector showed up. I'm guessing they aren't NCRR and came from somewhere else. I'm not certain if any foundry records exist for the UP in the 1880s showing part numbers and consignment?
One thing about the Nevada Central. As early as 1881 equipment was transferred from it to a line in Utah by the UP. There is also a record of the NC using a U&N engine for a very short period in the mid-80s. But that's it: These swaps of equipment on this very remote (both from the UP and from pretty much the civilized world) appear to have been only done a couple of times.
Randy Hees of the RR museum in southern Nevada may more definitively comment on the provenance of these trucks.
URL: http://c-sng-discussion-forum.254.s1.nabble.com/Type-C-UP-trucks-tp15497p15556.html
Phil,
That car is the second one in this picture. IIRC, that car is NC boxcar 253, a boxcar built in 1874 by Thomas Carter (pre Carter Brothers) for the Monterey & Salinas Valley. It would've been riding an early Carter truck up to the line's scrapping in 1938 but lost its trucks at that time. The car was grounded and sat in Battle Mountain until spotted by a local Nevada collector of dubious background. He "collected" a lot of "abandoned" equipment and moved it to a ranch he had. This hoard of equipment moved around Nevada and at one point was made operational for a tourist scheme in the early 1950s.
The trucks it is sitting on, if also from the NC, could be 1881 UP for flatcars built new for the NC, placed under the car for this display--but those cars were all scrapped in 1938 before the collector showed up. I'm guessing they aren't NCRR and came from somewhere else. I'm not certain if any foundry records exist for the UP in the 1880s showing part numbers and consignment?
One thing about the Nevada Central. As early as 1881 equipment was transferred from it to a line in Utah by the UP. There is also a record of the NC using a U&N engine for a very short period in the mid-80s. But that's it: These swaps of equipment on this very remote (both from the UP and from pretty much the civilized world) appear to have been only done a couple of times.
Randy Hees of the RR museum in southern Nevada may more definitively comment on the provenance of these trucks.
Dave Eggleston
Seattle, WA
Seattle, WA
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