Re: former C&S stock car 7104

Posted by Derrell Poole on
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First of all, I'm having trouble figuring out how the tie car 07404 retained a steel under frame. The SUF mounted with cross arms that were bolted to the under side of a 7" side sills. The sills on 07404 appears much more like that of a Type I truss rod car. Those sills were something like 12" high (iirc). The SUF cars road 26" above the rail. Their body bolsters were adapted to BAC (Bettendorf Axle Co.) Class F2 cast narrow gauge trucks. The truck visible under 0740 is clearly an archbar - much like a Type I ASF truck. The Type I car had a cast body bolster and those cars (bottom of  side sills) rode 21" above the rail.

As far as the strikes on SUF cars the first were the 500 series reefers Built Dec. 1908 - Feb. 1909. They used the striker introduced by the 1908 build of Type II cars. This was C&S pattern FM-132 equal to W.H. Miner Co. D-725. The draft gear was W.H. Miner Co. which included a number of patterns. By the summer of 1909 when the next set of SUF cars were built the strikers had changed to the style you see on 7104. Unfortunately that pattern is not listed on any of the drawings I am aware that I have. I would have to dig in the dusty old files to see if there is something more.

My suggestion is to explore Bettendorf and Miner company files for the period surrounding 1908 - 10. Or MCB volumes during that period. I would also suggest you see if Grandt Line Products have any info on file since they are the most accurate originators of the plastic mold injection SUFs for O, S and HO scales kits. PBL uses the OMI molds which originated with GL. Anything to the contrary, by proof, I stand correct - since this is just a cursory investigation.