http://digital.denverlibrary.org/cdm/ref/collection/p15330coll22/id/55333

[Robert McFarland]

or,Construction Train Cars in Chalk Creek Canyon.No,we're not looking at Mason #3,the Litchfield boxcar or the Bowers&Dure coach(or the "ghost" beside it).I'm talking about the construction train cars located on the siding-particularly the 4 SG width "Camp Cars".In the post about Fremont Pass I compared them to one of the carbodies at Climax.Would anybody have an idea how long or wide they were.They appear to have stove pipes protruding through the roof,lettering on the sides and in some case,windows.            
       BTW,thats WHJ-1424

[Chris Walker]

here ya go



http://cdm16079.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/fullbrowser/collection/p15330coll22/id/55333/rv/singleitem/rec/2

[Jeff Ramsey]

I have wondered if the car body at Frisco was not a early construction outfit. Notice that there are stake pocket supporting the side wall framing, right below the door. Flat outfit?

[Robert McFarland]

I have always thought it was a Hallack Bros. car .Compare this to the obvious Hallack Bros. car in the foreground of WHJ-364 or CHS.J922 "10 Mile" pass photo.Notice the Hallack car seems to be sheathed with some sort of paneling or plywood like board.Could it be the battens were  a stop-gap to make the sheathing last longer?I don't seem to see any stake pockets.The car in your photo might have been used in construction  service.

[Robert McFarland]

Notice what appears to be an end board like the Hallack cars had.

[Robert McFarland]

It appears that there is a stake pocket,but what's it doing below floor level.There is another photo of the car in the Frisco website on Darel's related website list.

[Keith Hayes]

Robert, maybe they needed something to prop up and level the beam, and a stake pocket was close at hand and fit the bill?

[Jeff Ramsey]

Could this be another early DSP&P construction car?

[John Droste]

Robert, if what you are pointing out is that thing next to the boy, under the side of the car, would`nt that be a cross beam with a chair bracket on the underside for bracing?
Regarding your work hut being transported above. Have you noticed that there is a very similar thing outside of the Pacific hotel in the 1883 photo? Must be on a flat car. I suspect one of the huts being moved from King.

[Robert McFarland]

Referring now to a photo in the photos section of the DENVERSOUTHPARK Yahoo group showing two DSP&P MOW cars the boom car in the photo has a cobbled up superstructure built on a flat car .It seems to be held to the car by stakes on the inside of the car side.There are battens on the outside of the superstructure.It would seem that the station and the "Ruby" car were MOW or construction cars

[John Droste]

If I am at least partially understanding you Robert, there are trees close to the edge of the track, far side. Could you be looking at a tree near the end wall of the station building.
Don't know what "Ruby" car means or is.

[Chris Walker]

John Droste wrote

Don't know what "Ruby" car means or is.

John,  at times like this I keep hearing a song from my American travels

Down came a blackbird
Set on a fence
Talkin' in riddles
And makin' absolutely perfect sense


Robert is referring to the photo of the Ruby, the #13 Mason Bogie found elsewhere and partially reproduced in this thread by Jeff, here: http://c-sng-discussion-forum.41377.n7.nabble.com/http-digital-denverlibrary-org-cdm-ref-collection-p15330coll22-id-55333-tp2856p10357.html specifically the Board and Batten clad structure visible in the background.

[John Droste]

Thanks.
Looks to me like it has a small square window that can slide sideways in a face mounted frame to open. It also looks like it has a roof walk.

That's all I can see in that photo Chris.

John

[Robert McFarland]

The other photo I am referring to  is located in the DENVERSOUTHPARK Yahoo group photo section.It shows two DSP&P MOW cars-what looks to be a 26ft Litchfield boxcar with attached MOW "stuff" and a car  that appears to a half body mounted on a flatcar looking like the mate to" the Big Hook"

[Ken Martin]

That photo of two cars 0692 and 0125 is also in "NG Pictorial" Vol. 8  page 169. The original is at the Littleton Historical Society.

Ken

[Robert McFarland]

Focusing on the second photo in the group of enlargements of the Chalk Creek photo there are four short(or is it two long) SG width construction cars.Could they be hand me downs from the UP on narrow gauge trucks?I'm wondering if the glass plate still exists because it  is more or less impossible to make out any detail.I wonder if Ron Rudnick would have any info on these cars.

[Robert McFarland]

Check out DPL photo X-9793 of Golden