Mogul tender tank.

[Fred C]

Hello all:

Now that I can spend time adding some detail parts to my Moguls, (there's two survivors). I have been using the pictures in Mallory Hope Farrel's book C&Sng as my guide.
My question is this:
I know rhat there were air tanks .on the rear of
the tender. What were the dimentions of them?.
Thanks for your help.
Fred C.
Some where up Ohio Creek.

[Jim Courtney]

OK Fred, which tender air tank are we talking about?

The pre-1903 trainline air reservoir that sat on the rear of the tender frame like this:




Or the smaller tender air reservoir with triple valve that sits above it?
Another view c1898:




If you are modeling anytime after about 1903, you will need just the tender air reservoir, like this:




The big train line air tank has moved to the locomotive, atop the boiler, sometimes two on the 2-8-0s. Often a tool box was added to the rear tender deck, behind the tank, as on number 66 above.

If what you need is just the smaller tender air reservoir, Precision Scale make a correct part, PSC-7510, "Westinghouse air reservoir with high speed reducing valve, C&S, 10" x 24". While I like fabricating my own parts, I do well with things that are straight and square. Round things like air tanks give me problems. If I can find a commercial part, the time saved is worth the cost (to me).

Before you spend a lot of time detailing the Bachmann tender, see if Steve can print you a tender tank in O scale. The S scale test print that he sent me is gorgeous.

By the way, what time period are you interested in?

First decade, with straight stacks?





Second decade, with "Como" stacks?





Or 1918 to early 1920s with Ridgeway stacks?





Inquiring C&S minds want to know . . .

[Jeff Ramsey]

Where is the location that the 11 is taken at? I don't think I have seen that image before.

[Mike Trent]

I haven't seen that picture of #11 either.

I assume Fred's engines have extended smokeboxes, so straight stacks are the way to go.

The small tank on the rear of the tender is for the engine air. The large tank is train air.

The  tanks PSC makes are way undersize, but a small tank is better than no tank. The actual size is  12" in diameter, and the length can vary a bit. Both #74 and #60's tanks are 12x33". I make them by cutting a 1/4" tube to length, and inserting a rod for the ends. The straps can be made with small styrene strips. I use the triple valve and piping from the PSC casting. I'll post a couple pictures when I can.

Happy Thanksgiving to everyone.

[skip]

Jeff Ramsey wrote

Where is the location that the 11 is taken at? I don't think I have seen that image before.

I don't know the original source, but it is published in Klinger's Clear Creek District Memories book on page 223.
I believe that it is in Morrison. My current almost-finished #11 is based on the picture.
Skip Egdorf
Los Alamos, NM

[Jim Courtney]

The two photos of C&S number 11 were taken at Morrison. The side view from the Klingers' Clear Creek book, the spring snow scene from the Colorado Rail Annual.

Mike wrote:

I assume Fred's engines have extended smokeboxes, so straight stacks are the way to go.

A guy named Bob Walker runs American Scale Models and has surplus On3 Overland pasts, assemblies.  If Fred wants to convert his Bachman moguls to the second decade, Bob offers the "Como" spark arrestor in O scale, just need a couple of holes drilled in the straight stack:

https://americanscalemodels.com/O/O_ON3_DETAIL_PARTS?product_id=4043


Should Fred want a later version of 12, 13, 21 or 22 with the Ridgeway spark arrestor, Bob has a completed assembly that doesn't require soldering the parts together:

https://americanscalemodels.com/O/O_ON3_DETAIL_PARTS?product_id=4390


Bob offers the Ridgeway spark arrestor in HOn3 as well as well as an assembled pilot snow plow, both surplus Overland items as well:

https://americanscalemodels.com/HO/HON3_DETAIL_PARTS