How do you model Elliot switch stands?

[Chris Walker]

You really delivered on this one, Jeff !!  

Just as I was transfering the measurements in to a full-sized pattern as well, and wondering how much difference between the two manufacturers there actually was.

Nice to see that my digging for the Maker was on the right track.  Now to find the Elliot 2-Way version in a C&S photograph.

[Jeff Young]

I hope to get back down there for the second track laying session on Sunday, so let me know if there are any other angles/close-ups/whatever you need.

[Chris Walker]

Thanks Jeff, I dropped you a line.

[Jeff Young]

A bit more data on the Buda:

Chris was on to something I didn't realize: the fronts of the legs are vertical; all the slope is in the back of the legs.  

There is a radius fillet at the bottom of the legs (which are cast integrally with the base).  Immediately above that the legs are 4-1/4" thick.  

There's no radius at the tops (the top plate is a separate piece which is bolted to the legs).  The legs are 3-1/4" thick at the top.  

The internal web is 1-1/2" back from the front surface of the legs all the way up.

The base is 16-1/2" wide at the center of the button.  (Or at least it would be if there wasn't a crescent cut out of the back.  The crescent is 2-1/4" deep by 10" wide.)

The center of the web of the legs is 5" from the straight part of the back; 11-1/2" from the center of the front button.

Cheers,
Jeff.

[Chris Walker]

Finally, proof that the C&S had at least one Elliot Switchstand in service, please note however this has a three-way headplate not the elusive two-way that I seek.


from pg132 of Mineral Belt II  David S. Digerness Sundance Books 1978

[Jeff Young]

> … please note however this has a three-way headplate…

… and down-pointing crank with button-base….

[Jeff Ramsey]

Back when the Ashbys ran the the Georgetown Loop they had a switch stand  that was displayed at the Georgetown ticket office (OGS) that was of Elliott or Buda design but was constructed by the C&S and the castings thereof were clearly embossed with "C&S", most apparent on the rotary handle. Chris's image from Mayo spur looks like a C&S stand due to the handle. Last I heard this unique switch stand is storage in Canyon City.

[Chris Walker]

Jeff,

I find that interesting that you see a Button base in the Mayo Spur picture, I see a Dogbone, but you are correct on the crank-arms to id these differences in the manufacturer.  I'm still looking for the two-way top-plate with dogbone-base.

Jeff,  

I have wondered if the C&S Handle was a replacement casting or a C&S cast complete stand under licence, if they did it that way?  I have read where the RR Companies paid royalties for such things as Priest Flangers so I see no difference to producing switchstands.  

[Jeff Young]

Hi Chris,

I thought dog-bone as well at first, but pay particular attention to the angle of the sun and the shadow on the base.  The edge of the base must be passing *under* the throw rod to get a shadow like it has.

Cheers,
Jeff.

[Norm Acker]

Hi guys, I bought a bunch of these in On3 from Wiseman Models a couple of years ago. They are from the old Back Shop line that Keith acquired. It took a bit of pestering on my part for him to get around to running them, but they are pretty nice. I don't see them in his online store. I hope to actuate this one with a linkage from the throw bar.

 

[Jeff Young]

Those are nice looking castings, Norm.

Just realized I never updated this thread with a picture of the HO-scale ones Rick cast for me:





(I've since weathered it a bit to tone down the shiny black, but I don't have an updated picture.)

Cheers,
Jeff.

[Norm Acker]

Hi Tim,
I bought a bunch of these from Wiseman Models a couple of years ago. They're not in Keith's online catalog, but with some email pestering on my part he ran a batch of the old Back Shop offering and I purchased a number of them. I hope to make them cosmetically operational with wire linkages to my throw bars.

[Norm Acker]

Oops, sorry guys, my previous post didn't show up yesterday, apologies for the duplication.