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Another Oil tank...

Chris Walker
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Derrell Poole
Looks like Breck. What's the date?
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Chris Walker
Yes,  Breckenridge....!

http://digital.denverlibrary.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15330coll22/id/2506/rec/302

According to DPL 1890-1899, what say you Derrell as you have these milestones memorised?  
I really need a timeline.  And the commodity stored?  
Were they moving away from coal to fueloil for residential heating that early?  Can't be Gasolene as there wouldn't be any Auto's either if it is pre-C&S.
UpSideDownC
in New Zealand
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Re: Another Oil tank...

Rick Steele
I don't see a stick of C&S equipment there.

Chris, you don't need it to be gasoline. For many years Gasoline was a by-product of making kerosene, which was used back then for damned near everything. Remember, all those miners needed some sort of oil to power the head lamps that they wore down below.

Oils and lubricants were needed to keep the winzes greased and working

Remember the last part of Adlake's trade name for its lanterns and markers. They were marketed as Adlake-Kero.

Just because it's a tank, it doesn't have to be gasoline.

Rick
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Keith Hayes
I was going to speculate kerosene.

At the 2012 Narrow Gauge Convention,  Dave Grandt gave a stimulating presentation on the development of oil, gas and kerosene distribution and railroads. It really illuminated my understanding of these facilities and how they evolved over time, from using horses and wagons to trucks.
Keith Hayes
Leadville in Sn3
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Derrell Poole
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I'd concur with Rick. Petroleum had been up and coming for a long time by the mid to late '90s which is about the vintage of this photo - if I had to guess. The Sanborn maps which I have not looked at for a while indicate the sampler concentrator across from the depot (which I don't think you included in this cropping) isn't there until about then... iirc. Also beyond the Sampler up grade a few hundred feet was the electric power company spur. And off the photo to the right was the Breckenridge water column for the RR. This photo is so "early" to the C&S that if there was a C&S logo in the view it would be blazing white and unmistakable, imo. Every thing that I can tell is UP something or nuther or maybe DL&G. So this predates the TOC... I'm pretty sure.

Great Photo. Wish I had the room and time to do the Breckenridge layout - this is one of those few "gritty" spots along the SP.
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Chris Walker
I was at the 2012 Conv. too eh! {:))

Note: that by the Block lettering era, the building and the tank are gone.


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UpSideDownC
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Derrell Poole
Note that if you keep showing these great TOC Breckenridge views I'm gonna abandon my Buffalo Creek layout and go back to Breck! Gritty!
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Chris Walker
I wouldn't want that to happen....what you propose sounds very neat and there are a lot of detail goodies on that part of the line; no truss bridges at Breck. but I suppose a backdrop of endless Dredge waste dumps do have a certain appeal.  {:))


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UpSideDownC
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Derrell Poole
For those who don't know the water column is smak in the middle of the gap between the two "end" cars. Love that 3 way switch - good reasons to model Breck.
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Re: Another Oil tank...

Robert McFarland
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Why not go back to Trout Creek?Bender is calling you!
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Re: Another Oil tank...

Rick Steele
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I've got the map. Breckenridge was an interesting place, all right and the engine house and yard at Dickey were really close.

It was the mines up in Breckenridge that brought suit against the C&S in the 1920's and prevented the abandonment of the High Line until over a decade later.

Looked like a nasty court suit, though...

One warning, Chris, although there was dredging near Breckenridge, the heavy dredging didn't come along until after the C&S was abandoned.

Rick
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Re: Breckenridge

Chris Walker
Just how far away from the Breckenridge Depot, knowing that it was demolished while tracks were still in place down the Blue and the scrapper hadn't yet torn up the line, did the Dredge's work?

This might surprise you...


1934   http://digital.denverlibrary.org/cdm/fullbrowser/collection/p15330coll22/id/43671/rv/singleitem
UpSideDownC
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Chris Walker
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Continuing with this discovery, I may hasten to add that Bitumen was also used widely in the preservation of steel water pipes and the Gold Pan Shops were located in Breckenridge, many miles of pipe were constructed there to allow water to be brought to the Giant Nozzles in the various hydraulicking operations. That operation was underway in 1899, these shop buildings completed around 1900, which may explain the disappearance of both the tank and the adjacent building that seemed in too good of repair in the later image taken from the opposite side of the valley.


http://digital.denverlibrary.org/cdm/fullbrowser/collection/p15330coll22/id/15077/rv/singleitem/rec/51

Note the Tanker that was visible in the first post...EDIT: which looks more like a Boiler now. Ha Ha  :)



http://digital.denverlibrary.org/cdm/fullbrowser/collection/p15330coll22/id/2506/rv/singleitem/rec/302



Sidenote: That Privy at left of picture is where the Dredge rests in the upper post picture
UpSideDownC
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Re: Another Oil tank...

Derrell Poole
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Hmmmm...

Well I'm not sure what qualifies as heavy dredging;

Breck post 6-1906
Breckenridge after June 1906 - but not much

Closeup of Breck
Closeup of the cars in the yard

At least I think I see the block lettering.

I'd really be interested in the maps Rick. There was a lot going on at this gritty location - especially up French Gulch. I don't know if the RR actually owned trackage up the gulch but it seems something was there...
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Darel Leedy
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Scenery should be a piece of cake brother d. I've got some old fish tank gravel for ya. It's pink but looks like grey in black and white photos.
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Derrell Poole
Pink......

Yeah, let me think about that.